tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8381295.post109672347374698069..comments2023-07-15T07:54:40.393-05:00Comments on Gumbo Pie: Okay, okay, politicsSteve T.http://www.blogger.com/profile/12075948665118760070noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8381295.post-1097945856751858752004-10-16T11:57:00.000-05:002004-10-16T11:57:00.000-05:00Okay, I'll directly address one thing you have sai...Okay, I'll directly address one thing you have said:<br /><br />"You *did* say you were planning to vote Bush, which I have referred to (I haven't suggested you support him as such, but giving him your vote is quite enough)."<br /><br />Where? Where did I say that? I know every word I've written here, and I don't recall saying that at all. And what exactly <I>is</I> the distinction between "Steve T.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12075948665118760070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8381295.post-1097908253860174452004-10-16T01:30:00.000-05:002004-10-16T01:30:00.000-05:00Man, Khodada is completely discredited. He's INC. ...Man, Khodada is completely discredited. He's INC. They fed you all sorts of shit in the run-up to it. Please. Next you'll be claiming we had to invade Iraq to stop Saddam from shredding people. This is why I call you a rube.<br /><br />Bush has over the months given all sorts of reasons for invading Iraq. The justification has shifted over time. You won't find me suggesting that "WMDs are the Dr Zenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09778131002672435917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8381295.post-1097853959929682702004-10-15T10:25:00.000-05:002004-10-15T10:25:00.000-05:00Well, I've done a little fact checking (I presume ...Well, I've done a little fact checking (I presume you approve), and found that the Salman Pak connection is weaker than I thought but cannot be dismissed. Shortly after 9/11 an Iraqi defector, Sabah Khodada, told the NY times he had worked as an administrator at Salman Pak, and was aware that both Iraqis and non-Iraqis were trained there in terrorism techniques. These techniques included Steve T.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12075948665118760070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8381295.post-1097839523931280562004-10-15T06:25:00.000-05:002004-10-15T06:25:00.000-05:00Are you crazy? Salman Pak was a beat-up. There is ...Are you crazy? Salman Pak was a beat-up. There is absolutely no evidence connecting Saddam with 9/11. He talked to AQ but he found them distasteful because he didn't like Islamists (no wonder, they posed a direct threat to his secular regime, as they do to others in Egypt and Algeria, for instance, and would in Libya if Gaddafi didn't pander to Islamist sentiment).<br /><br />None of the 9/11 Dr Zenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09778131002672435917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8381295.post-1097731936815275902004-10-14T00:32:00.000-05:002004-10-14T00:32:00.000-05:00You said: "9/11 has absolutely nothing to do with ...You said: "9/11 has absolutely nothing to do with Iraq." Really? Have you never heard of Salman Pak? This is the Iraqi military base with an old Soviet airliner parked on it. This is where several of the 9/11 hijackers were actually <I>trained in how to hijack passenger jets.</I> And that has no connection?<br /><br />BTW, I spoke of "rethinking" after 9/11, and said that I'm no way convinced Steve T.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12075948665118760070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8381295.post-1097712260416605312004-10-13T19:04:00.000-05:002004-10-13T19:04:00.000-05:009/11 has absolutely nothing to do with Iraq.
Noth...9/11 has absolutely nothing to do with Iraq.<br /><br />Nothing will convince those who simply don't want to know the truth.<br /><br />Like I say, there's no point in talking to people like that.<br /><br />But *this* nonsense, I will answer:<br />"And I just cannot understand anyone who didn't rethink as a result of those events"<br /><br />Can you not understand that there are plenty of peopleDr Zenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09778131002672435917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8381295.post-1097667608407619592004-10-13T06:40:00.000-05:002004-10-13T06:40:00.000-05:00Oh, goody! My first flame!
You might have been wo...Oh, goody! My first flame!<br /><br />You might have been worth debating point by point if you hadn't lost control in the last paragraph. But I will say this. "Craven, mindless patriotism"? Oh, that's rich. I grew up in Berkeley, California, and in junior high I was marching through the streets protesting the Vietnam war. (Were you even born then?) Most of my life I believed as you would have me Steve T.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12075948665118760070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8381295.post-1097645855857240692004-10-13T00:37:00.000-05:002004-10-13T00:37:00.000-05:00It was about WMDS *until* it was about WMD program...It was about WMDS *until* it was about WMD programs *until* it was about maybe he'd have programs if there were no sanctions.<br /><br />Hang on! There were sanctions though. And they were working. The ISG reported that he totally wanted them gone. He bribed everyone going to get them gone but they were still in place.<br /><br />While they were in place, he had no WMDs, and there was no threat. Dr Zenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09778131002672435917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8381295.post-1096911320936708962004-10-04T12:35:00.000-05:002004-10-04T12:35:00.000-05:00I am shocked. SHOCKED, I tell you. I had no idea...I am shocked. SHOCKED, I tell you. I had no idea you too voted for Ford.<br /><br />Your screed makes total sense to me, but whadaya speck, I'm one of those Liberal Republicans that aren't supposed to exist. There's a lot to dislike about Bush, but there's a lot more to dislike about a world ruled by Security Council infighting and a signal lack of decisiveness in the face of general nuclear Donhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16090153485822745036noreply@blogger.com